Neanderthals were fearless and calculated hunters

Fri, May 15, 2009

Even among some scientific circles, Neanderthals are considered to be the ’stupid’ cousins of the modern humans (although some claim that’s the hobbit). However, new research shows they were able to hunt really large animals which required more than power to be taken down, pointing that neanderthals were far from stupid (as hobbits were too, according to some). A Dutch researcher, Gerrit Dusseldorp looked into their daily food habits to get more insight about their behaviour, and found it to be way more complex than previously believed.

The first studies that concluded neanderthals were scavengers were proven wrong fast, and we now know that they were hunters. What we didn’t know is that they were very good hunters, because their strategies and approaches remain a mystery.

The Netherlands team analyzed two archaeological sites and found that in warmer places they hunted solitary smaller animals, but in colder regions they went for the big thing, and they were not easily intimidated. Rhinoceroses, bisons and even bears were all on their menu.

They also performed (at a very basic level) a cost-benefit analysis, understanding that bigger prey means more calories and other bonuses too, such as fleece. The study also pointed out that their main competition for neanderthals were hyenas, because they have a similar dietary pattern.

Written by Mihai Andrei

Tags: hobbit, hunt, Neanderthal, site

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25 Comments For Neanderthals were fearless and calculated hunters

carlos lascoutx Says:
May 21st, 2009 at 5:32 pm

…they were the most superb rodeo= r/to=our teo/deo riders ever,
hitching rides on mounts that were larger, swifter, more powerful
than any brahma today, super bulls for super gladiators, their feats
come down to us not as history but as word, deo/rodeo, the word
for god, the word for heroe. they were noble and tuned, they were
incomparable, something the world had never seen before, and would
only remember in myth much later, when eden had been left behind,
citys arose, and small-minded little shits hid behind the curtains
and cups of governance and leprous taxes, each to his own state of
moral bankruptcy. the first flowering of species bipedal, the last
being a raleigh, spreading his handle-bars for a smoke queen who would take his lungs and life in the pursuit of her private wars.

Rodrigo Says:
June 8th, 2009 at 3:27 pm

“They also performed (at a very basic level) a cost-benefit analysis, understanding that bigger prey means more calories and other bonuses too, such as fleece.”

The nature of this phrasing or even the existence of a comment like this is more or less absurd. It has already been established long ago that neanderthals utilize intelligence. A “cost-benefit analysis” is a strange interpretation of wanting large prey. If the only evidence shown is the hunting of large prey, this does not equate to “cost-benefit analysis” only does it equate to a desire for enough or more than enough resources hunted and acquired, which is an assumed motivation anyway.

carlos lascoutx Says:
June 8th, 2009 at 7:20 pm

…well, roderigo, that’s just a bean-counter talking, the kind
that skulk around the campfire at enron and make off with bits of
meat like the dogs, i think we know that danger has an exhilerating effect on blicked sinuses, clears them up right away, as a sioux
chief said before battle, today is a good day to die, now there
was a man who dared to live, and neander for all his short life
felt intensely alive, connected, his torch was lit and burned brightly, so brightly that he had enough left over for the first
scrabbly folk out of afrika with no direction home, took on the
cold face of the stars and mapped it, cautious, able, warm-hearted,
respectful of his fellow animals and envrionment, not like the
throw-away garbage society of today, high tech low lifes, huddling
together against their own species even, not wanting to include
them in their masquerades and banquets. neander/neandra understood
the raw universe to the flesh and the sprits trapped inside this
blue envelope entirely, from this fallen angel came the gods,
our carefully crafted language so fine even its letters tell a
story, played the first notes of music on his pan flute and even
before that through throat singing, began weaving as the star chart,
wrestled to begin games, because they weren’t a large society/
tzotzoyotia(N)=popcorn on a string means they didn’t have the
humdrum wisdom of consensus that is so destructive to education
and scholarship today and produces generation after generation
of tired systemic flasks that deliver civ. back to the past.
no, today we run in packs, yet are not the equals of the dogs
we imitate. i’m not arguing for superman, i’m arguing for thought,
conscience, the balls to say no to your own government when
it bypasses the do unto others laws, and the courage to see elites
for what they are: catastrophic cassandras of the common good.

carlos lascoutx Says:
June 8th, 2009 at 9:45 pm

…in the chatelperronian, 35-29k bc, neander/neandra hunted
all the time, wet and dry, from fixed camps, because they were
tied to locus/tloc(N)/location for their medicine, their
pharmacy/pamaca(N), they had periods of convalescence, were
not always in the best of health, they may not have been resistant
to the strains of flu coming up from afrika, or their own
hard scrabble past from nothing caught up with them, maybe
crossing the species barrier, not having iodine/yodo(sp)/yotl(N)/
yo(sp)=iota(gk)=i(E) to develop brain and nervous system,
get your iodized salt today child-bearing mothers,
so many things with no god to guide them, but they climbed out
of the whirlpool of evolution, and in some cases produced walking,
running, riding, singing gods, for there is every evidence in
the myth we have that gods were real people, lady birdsnake
at belgrade, tlatla tzol teotl at zatal huyuk hunting
aurox with her cats, zeus driving his father chronus to the
emerald isle, his dad was the youngest neander titan=titlani(N)=messenger, his name goes into theatre as comedy, commotion,
the daily drill of the breakfast fire=comoni(N),
a cosmic dance repeated every day,
the co(s)mos starts with a spark, a chitoni(N)/chthonic
tune as first light from the torch of creation streaks across the
universe to land in a mudhole that becomes an eye, gleams back,
and then chants the music of the universe that gave birth
to time, ritually intoning that first particle rubbed against
theother/teotl(N)/teo theo deo, tetl tletl teotl theology.

carlos lascoutx Says:
June 12th, 2009 at 8:25 pm

…of the traits in neander/neandra to underline, that are
mentioned in the mati/immati(N) wordstring filed in remí
simeon’s nauatl diccionario, isbn 968-23-0573, is circumspection,
judicious, cautious, respectful, warm-hearted. he/she didn’t kill
for body count, they killed for survival, and gave back offering/
uentli(N) for what they took to live. the number for that action
is reverse/chico ome/2=7, which survives today in the hebrew word,
menorah, the 7 wraps. the number 7 goes on to become the days in
the week in the incredibly botched calendrics of today that has
us at least sixty days out of phase for our planetary round,
i suppose you could say time/temi/ t/th/he(r)mi(letra)=hermes
is only messenger service, but the original word for time was,
cahuitl(N)=the flowing of ca/being, which, through letra=
c/g(r)avi tl/ty=gravity, and knowing that makes us further
out of balance. as i have said elsewhere, time is now on
the atomic standard, accurate as it might be, still a chilling
affront to the spirit of man, the stagehand to the music of this
sphere, why, it’s like the metro(g)nome of science taking over beethoven’s ode to joy/yoli/yollotli(N)=heart.
seven(7)= se-ven=ce uentli(N)=one offering/cerf/se(r)ve/
ciervo(sp)/hirvi(Finn)/se(r)vice/reverend/wind/went/wend(gens)/
even/when/evenki(deertribe)/gwen(the word, queen)/gwent(wales),
and comes from the deer cult of 42k bc, a cromag venture that
springs up along with the earlier iueli solstice bear christ
worship begun by neander and carried on by the Finns, whereby
the pine tree/pinaua(N)=to be ashamed, redden/opinau(N)=opinion,
later, pennon/ p/b(r)ennon(OTeut)=burn(E), becomes the first
cross, of the coming of the bear from heaven, for a body=tlaca(N)/
raka(Finn)=sin, and his ascension after sacrifice to his original
place in the bear constellation. i don’t thiink you can have a bear cult unless you know the heavens. neander/neandra starts it and
the ritual fact is that those millenia that precede the exodus
from afrika were spent in large part on astronomy, with the naming
and language symbolism that it implies, and the drawing down of
the observable gods and myths that neander/neandra, the fallen
band of angels passed on to the migrations out of afrika, or,
even while they were in afrika, as time is the determinant, not
locus, in this transfer of knowledge, so, we may sidestep the
boondoggle scholars are so fond of.
it is hard for us to understand neander with our spiritually
arrogant, yet overly precise brain, but he/she seems to have had
a encyclopedic facility for connecting things which was like a
chain reaction that encompassed the universe on the first day,
a creative mind, not a scheming one full of treachery. as we
see religion develop from neandra to us, our belief system
changes from that of wonder, and distinct division of the divine
from human affairs, to that of scapegoat and betrayal.
is that the type of loom we want
for the weaving of our affairs on the blue planet?
if so, we are sadly out of tune with the central impulse of
our universe, tonatiuh/anthony/tonalli(N)=, the soul we have
now comes down to us from the old word for sewing/sawing=tzaua,
and is joined by, ollin/holy= t/z/saol/lin=saol(OE)=soul(E),
and as society=tzotzoyotia(N)=iotas on a string, that too a
weaving word, yet we seem to be running out of string.
language is weaving, i believe we are not spinning enough
of it to meet our needs for string, ah, spin/(s)piel/piloa/
spill/spil/rit=spirit, aha, we need more spirit of spinning
words, more talkers to get us off the pages of bad news,
badly written and talked by vulgarians and stumpheads, yes,
that may be it. letra can help.tks

lolwut? Says:
July 9th, 2009 at 6:28 pm

well carlos. you’re really good at bullshitting, but you haven’t said a damn thing.

you’re not supposed to drink the bong water.

carlos lascoutx Says:
July 9th, 2009 at 7:59 pm

…who dares awake neander napping on his pile of bearshit, or
cyclops counting sheep, it must be stinky man, the odiferous,
related back in chronus to the rodent, always chewing about the
pantry of his betters, looking for a free meal, then crapping
in what he can’t eat such is his social consciousness, why did
i have to help him when he was down and out during the glaciation,
shivering there with a broken spear and his wife ready to whelp
god knows what new catastrophy on the earth he would later scratch
and torment, reeking there in the air he would fill with neutrons
and protons by dawn’s early light, the nuclear knucklehead who
thought he was so smart then had to go running around trying to
recover what he had spilled from the basket, he and his pal ivan,
the proto-bear. what can one do for a species that betrays its
mother, its friends, and now its reaching into space to spread
the dread there and find a new garbage dump as they’re all full
below, and he keeps squeaking, god, god, god, listen to me, i am
cousin of the rat, we’re sorry we chewed your slippers and have
soiled creation with our kind, can you forgive us, and perhaps
lend us our allowance 2 weeks in advance, we want to go to mars
and check out if it’s really made of roquefort. tks. we still
believe in you but will so even more if you can also slip us
a few lottery numbers under the table. tks, man.
now where is my f…ing bong, oh, no, ocelotl ate it, and the water
too. oh well, have to talk to tzol about the beast again.
let me bend my mind to toady man again, he never listens,
the ears are rudders so he doesn’t fall over, and his nose
isn’t for smelling, if it was he would have passed out long ago
from his own fug, what a creature, and if you’re ever so unlucky
as to see him trying to make a baby in an unguarded moment, you’ll
appreciate cosmo’s sense of humor, intelligent design?, couldn’t
stop laughing the first time saw rubik’s cube for sex, and
apparently he can’t tell his genders apart and does it with
whoever he comes upon. oh well, let me spend some quality time
with the noble animals, ride the rhino, chat with the aurox,
tango with the bear, trade shadows with the eagle, goof off
with the otter, and stagger with the elk, but droid mankeyys,
blue-bottomed babboons, capuchins, the occasional orangbhutan,
their idiotic chatter in language they don’t know because it
was another unwrapped gift they carry around from moi, neander,
i believe when god had finished making their species, he said,
let them go forth and fuck themselves, and they did, are, and will.

okay Says:
July 9th, 2009 at 10:31 pm

seriously, shut up.

you’re an idiot.

carlos lascoutx Says:
July 10th, 2009 at 8:16 am

…got it. good luck, and if you come upon a new discovery, kill it.

carlos lascoutx Says:
July 26th, 2009 at 9:03 am

…by the way, check out, 10 useful inventions that went bad.
oh, and lolwut, an incurious brain like yours doesn’t capture
anything because it’s just an ornament, you know, for decoration,
it’s not meant to be used, your ears are not for listening,
they’re for ventilation, if you ever do pick up a book you’ll
find your nose useful for turning the pages, don’t try to smell
with it or you may not like yourself afterwards, and your eyes
are for playing marbles during recess, which for you is all the
time. ok, schools out.

lolwut Says:
July 30th, 2009 at 12:54 am

ah, well. i heard a saying once, “arguing on the internet is like competing in the special olympics. even if you win, you’re still retarded.” reminds me of you, carlos crazy man. enjoy your tinfoil hats and conspiracy theories about neanderthals.

carlos lascoutx Says:
August 13th, 2009 at 8:21 pm

…the retarded is you lolwut, i am bringing something to the debate
about neander, you are just carrying your opinion, not engaging,
making a judgement that you cannot back up, you have nothing to offer, neither does okay, and it’s really not ok, if you are running a business just say so and accept the consequences of being sob’s,
sons of beesknees, and huddle together with the other dime a dozens
nameless assholes of cyberspace, cramped minds of rote, and midget
widgets of the slag heap on eternal recycle. what’s new?

PW Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 9:08 am

Thanks Carlos for pointing this page out. Neander made flutes, performed ornate burials, created art, etc. Some French scientists went to the trouble of “disproving” their ability to interbreed with crow-magnum(sp). As a friend said, if he were shaved and dressed, and riding on the subway car with you, you would not bat an eye looking at him, although he might appear a little strange looking, and perhaps you would sense that he were indeed several times stronger than yourself. Did he speak? His vocal chords may have allowed only singing, which some would say would be a limitation we all should have been blessed with.

carlos lascoutx Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 9:10 am

…what’s new is that in chasing down the mastiff origins, that’s
origo(Lat)=to rise= or/l/tleco(N)=to rise(a prayer for ok and
lolwits)source of origin, isn’t it amazing that r/l/tl?, but i
digress, i stumbled upon the most successful deer tribe, the
massagetae=mazatl cettilia(N)=the settled deer tribe of the alaunt
alaua(N)=praise/annoint alani alans, who are the successful
healthy neader crosses of the russian riverine, being blond, blue/green eyed, who lived over
by the sea of azov/lake meotis=meyaua otli(N)=the flowing road,
where they fished, hunted fresh water seal for garment, went directly from deer to horse to cattle, some sheep perhaps but
knowing the sheep wars of 50’s oaters they had to settle for
one or the other, and to guard the herds and to pull the smaller
carts, they developed and bred the mastiff as cattle guard,
settlement defender, then wardog. they gave the persians the
chariot and wardog, in fact, the game of chess they may have come
from mongolia, cf., post tzopilotl wordpress, chessgoddess, or
matilda’s gobekli blog, as the mongilian words for king queen
come from their word for guard dog, nohoi(M), also, the tonalamatl
may originate with them as dog is the center of the basic calendar
sample/cempoalli(N)/20 at number 10, with deer being number/day 7.
needless to say they were the most fearsome warriors of their time,
a tribe hitler was trying to connect with for his aryan theorys,
which remained just that. they were tricked by the the persians
who laid a banquet for them with plenty of wine, the alani were
not used to wine, having a miraculous plant they used to get high
instead, it turns out to be hashish, so they fell upon the banquet
and got so befuddled they were set upon by the persians,
who easily defeated them and captured their prince,
spargapises, who contrived to commit suicide when released of his bonds. his mother, queen tomyris, vowed to dunk king cyrus’s severed head in blood for that treachery and so it turned out after one of the cruelist battles ever seen in those parts. tomyris found
his body under a pile of men and gave his head the plunge(pun).
in the 9-12th centurys the alani were pushed to the caucassus
by the swelling mongols behind them and formed the christian
kingdom of alania, at the same time the alani tribes were renting
themselves out as mercenarys, going into france, iberia with the vandals, before the 7th c., taking their war dog with them.
their progress in europe can be traced by following the breed,
the molosser in greece, the monchina in cantabria which guards
the half-wild red cattle they have there, the doggo in venice,
the alano in spain, the kangal in the caucassus, the mastiff
in england. these were people who bred cattle, horses, dogs,
themselves. they were monogamous but held their women in common,
a delightful idea for modern times if one does not wish to be
bothered with divorce and the scuzzy lawyers who settle like
flies over those cases. so wherever you find blond redhead blue/
green eyes, horse, dog, cattle beefeaters, with the elite hierarchy
of kings and queens at the top of the breeding ladder for humans
you will have this race, the race who come alive in wars and who
invent the most diabolic means to pursue it. hitler’s great mistake
was to attack england for the descedents of the alani were there
waiting for him, with their dogs, chariots(of air), their horse,
beef sandwiches, hash, and a spot of tea.

carlos lascoutx Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 1:32 pm

…why would the french bother to disprove interbreeding when they
breed with everything, they were the amazement of the amerindians,
spending so much time with their squaws they lost the entire
continent to the less enthusiastic british, even the racoons=
rl/tlacoon(N)=body were not safe, altho they might have drawn
the line at moose until they imported swings. desoto brought
over 600 pigs that promptly infected wildlife here, but when
asked about the french, he bacame quite modest about his swineherd,
crossed himself, and mentioned taking vows of chastity.
neander did speak, and if he did not he mimed=mimati(N)=mati(N)=
to know=mater(Lat). this is the mother race of our knowledge,
even though it’s the race preceding ours. if one wants a portrait
of neander, one follows the mati/mimati/imati/imatini/imattica
word string, meaning, prudent, cautious, circumspect, grateful,
periods of convalescence(many neanders were sickly from crossing
the species barrier, their mothers no having iodine when pregnant,
and other minerals in their diet, nonetheless, the russian riverine
neanders that culminated in the alani/massagetae=mazatl ceti
were the godlike/zeus neander who gave us the annointed/alaua/
hallow/allowed alans, the top deer culture tribe who were as close to gods as cross-breeding would allow, and reflected their origins
in breeding horse, alabai/alano/alaunt mastiffs and sprinkling
then all over europe and england and eurasia wherever their victorious hosts went), like all good things of blond and blue/
green eye, redhair also, they were in demand and bred their own
tribe out of existance after founding the kingdom of alania in the caucassus, which is why there is so little of neander in dna,
but enough to know we are promethean, too, and our favorite sport
is war, whose time is coming to a close, for a new world age to
begin. all things pass away, often the best first, which is a
sadness we remember in myth and the scrambled eggs of history,
but it’s all there in the language neander gave us and the book
of souls with dog at the center and deer at seven, that his mixed
descendents gave us, the age of heroes, now we are in the age of
beans, the counting of.
as an aside, the japanese can be profiled in the same wordstring
manner i just did neander, by using the wordstring, tlapa, which
includes all the noble characteristics the japanese/hapa/tlapa
possess and others they like to hide. it’s all there in rémi
simeon, nauatl dictionary, isbn 968-23-0573-x.

PW Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 5:15 pm

The first signers, perhaps? Signing would of course have been one of the first means to communicate. Being voiceless or speechless does not inhibit communication. NSL was not hands free however, so they could not text while signing, nor post a Facebook message about the deer they caught that day or the bead necklace they made. It was illegal back then to text while chariot riding anyway so no loss was felt.

carlos lascoutx Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 7:37 pm

…signing in nauatl would be a snap, the tonalamatl is based on
our 20 digits, designed for memory like it’s companion, nauatl,
you count the days on your hands, have done it many times using
mine,no paper needed. for language, holding up 4 fingers=na, holding
up 5=ma, two=ome, one=ce, three could be, yei, or ca/calli. many
different ways to go. with the calender, 6=miquiztli/skull(today
is a skull day in the northern death/mictlampa quadrant. seven is
deer, harvest, often 7snake, goddess of plenty and none(the empress
and the star in tarot), also in tarot, you see the fool with a
dog between his legs because he originally was xolotl, eveningstar,
clown, and quetzalcoatl’s brother, morningstar is the proto-christ,
he is paired with st. michael in the tarot, st. michael being,
mickey miquiztli, the old death lord, whose realm xolotl traverses
everyday as dog escorts sun through middle earth to pop up east,
supressed by the catholic church in their warped wisdom based on
it is better for inferior minds not to know truth and origin(the
mural at san applonari, ravenna was covered over by a previous pope,
now it isn’t, so enjoy(google), it’s quetzalcoatl/hecate handing over their rule of the aryan tribes of king theodrik of gotha to
mary with jaysu on her lap, etc.). number is language, in at the
beginning, before music the first words were silent, but it is
not for nothing that mime/mimati(N)=subtle thing, comes from
mati(N)=to know mater(Lat)knowledge, know itself=nauh/no atl=
my water, my at(preposition/english)=4=naui. alaua(N)/hallow.
it’s all there in the leaves of words, the quills of language,
far more complex than a devious self-centered and arrogant mind
can comprehend with devil’s full help, but so elegantly simple
to a mind accustomed to humility and satisfied with what creation
has given, a mind that praises what it has, and is grateful.
that’s the mindset that gave us language, the divine promethean
gift that makes us heirs to eternity if we would only use its
full power instead of the toys that come to hand in the dreadful
silence called war, well, almost silent, it’s the hush where
the devil whispers, go ahead.

PW Says:
August 15th, 2009 at 12:41 am

Neander’s voice called from the “modern” man’s right hemisphere, giving god-like commands to the left, which were obeyed slavishly by man. Then the Jaynesian breakdown occurred, and we lost something, and gained as well. Then, after slipping through the nooks and folds of the brain, Neander became a sad willing drop-out and ceased to be even a voice, or at least one that most of us could hear except for the freaks who refused to take their Thorazine. The moon and the sun stood still together once, then the sun moved, then the moon.

carlos lascoutx Says:
August 15th, 2009 at 8:19 am

…from the fallen angel words we still use today in every language
whose headwater is nauatl, and, although shehe is gone the voice
lives on every lip. that’s eternity, leave your body at its door.

carlos lascoutx Says:
August 15th, 2009 at 3:46 pm

…i thought the moon was a galactic billiard carom that bounced
off blue planet(the 2 ball) and then tried to hang on with its
arms and legs, saying shine a little light on me, which the sun
heard her say and shone light on both of us with his flashlight, and since she’s a lady doesn’t show her backside. the nauatl word
for her, that goes into basque and japanese simultaneously,
=ilacatzqui(N)=to twist(one’s legs)around something=ilaca(letra)=
ila(r)ga(basque)= -c/gatz/ts(q)u(i)(letra)= -gatsu(jap)=month suffix)

PW Says:
August 15th, 2009 at 4:13 pm

As Jaynes and someone else before him said, in order to explain what consciousness was NOT, ask a flashlight the following question when you are in a dark room: “How well lit is this room?”. The answer will be “This room is extremely well lit”. Not a very enlightened flashlight but what can you expect? None are.

carlos lascoutx Says:
August 15th, 2009 at 5:00 pm

…that’s because the flashlight is an american politician
on capitol hill pretending he’s the sun, and the electorate
still hasn’t figured out they’re in the dark altho some
suspect they haven’t seen dawn’s early light in all the proud
waving.

carlos lascoutx Says:
September 2nd, 2009 at 8:36 am

…neander/neandra are looked down upon because they didn’t develop
a political structure. don’t you think we should look up to them for that? i do. beyond family and hunting grouping, they minded their own business, had time to develop language, enjoy life.
who can do that now, not with poli-ticks, oops, there’s one now,
slap it, their wars, their invasions, and now they are set to deny
the long-suffering american public a dignified health plan because
they want their pounds and don’t care for the flesh.
obama’s not doing well? oh, really? wonder why? is it because he
inherited a criminal enterprise called government whose greatest
exponenets are irresponsible torturers being defended by a blathering ex-viper, no me defiendes compadre, is what they
should say to him. the last chinny i knew who went to war was
in WW1, he saw action alright, flew into a cloud over his own
aerodrome and took out a friendly, nice going, we got an excellent
boys camp out of it in new hampshire, on the evidence of possible
kinship for the next generations of family i’d say it was a good
thing he did dodge the draft as many times as indecently possible
if only for the safety of our troops which would have been, and
are at risk from his misguided manipulation of the craft of war,
that only leaves his hunting partners but i think they’ve already
figured out he’s a loose gun.

carlos lascoutx Says:
September 12th, 2009 at 6:52 pm

…neander and modern human had the same hunting techniques.
kostenkij, russia appears to be the oldest modern human redoubt
outside of afrika, cf., my remarks on afrikan eve’s migration
to kostenkij and the triangulation of pierced shells simultaneously
at dordogne, south and east afrika, and kostenkij, 50k bc.
evidence in georgian(russia) caves, ortval klde and dzudzuana,
show neander and modern human strata, a .4 frequency of obsidian
for neander levels, from a source 100kilometers distant, and,
a 5%-7% freq. of obsidian from same source for modern human,
meaning they traded around neander, their success based on not
who they were(a neander trait), but on who they knew(modern human
societal trait). so neander was outflanked by modern human, who
multiplied more rapidly also. whether absorbtion took place or
outright extinction is hard to say. the mythological record left
us does not agree with the shovel findings, the promethean label
for neander is hard to shrug off, as is titan(gk)=titlani(N)=
messenger, fallen angel, and the zeus/cronus wars.
if shovels are to be trusted, deer antler is found only in
the modern human levels, the beginning of new flake tech and
the climb to deer culture and the blood religions we know today.

carlos lascoutx Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 8:48 pm

…now, an update, time moves quickly in the millenia layer,
the zhuang on the chinese border with vietnam, their name meaning
cave living have to be considered also, they have the oldest
tool and bone horizon outside of afrika, 800k bc, for all you
afrike freaks it probably just means an early exit from olduvai,
altho life is duality and there’s no reason why, given physical
appearance, that modern human began in duality, i.e., two places.
perhaps the difference in pysiognomy was neander himself, as it doesn’t seem he was far east, or even the altai mts, which is
an argument for interbreeding between mods and healthy neander,
altho from cave venus tlatla tzol teteo figurines neither mod or
neander breeding stock looked healthy during cave time, which
in some areas where caves were plentiful went on past gobekli
until çatal huyuk, the healthy portion of the race and religion
being promoted by the early nomads pushed out of europe by glaciation to follow tlaloc, the rain god, and his totem deer.
nomadism was of two types, one leading to the aryans, norse, swede rus, finn, goth, teuton, and the other the
asian arctic crescent, mongol altai, coming out of the zhuang
homeland, while the teuton, viking crowd, spring from eurocaves,
altho one can say the basques have an oriental, or at least
turkish aspect as they appear to have been evangelisized by
the porto-christ, quetzalcoatl, and crossed their ch(i)thonic=
chitoni(N)=sparky firedrill cave population with the turkish
tribe in bithynis, all of whom say they began in the altai mts.
at the moment, the altai, appears to have begun the intelligent
and cultured planet we now enjoy, give or take an orc or two
threatening the peaceful hobbit.

carlos lascoutx Says:
May 21st, 2009 at 5:32 pm
…they were the most superb rodeo= r/to=our teo/deo riders ever,
hitching rides on mounts that were larger, swifter, more powerful
than any brahma today, super bulls for super gladiators, their feats
come down to us not as history but as word, deo/rodeo, the word
for god, the word for heroe. they were noble and tuned, they were
incomparable, something the world had never seen before, and would
only remember in myth much later, when eden had been left behind,
citys arose, and small-minded little shits hid behind the curtains
and cups of governance and leprous taxes, each to his own state of
moral bankruptcy. the first flowering of species bipedal, the last
being a raleigh, spreading his handle-bars for a smoke queen who would take his lungs and life in the pursuit of her private wars.
Rodrigo Says:
June 8th, 2009 at 3:27 pm
“They also performed (at a very basic level) a cost-benefit analysis, understanding that bigger prey means more calories and other bonuses too, such as fleece.”

The nature of this phrasing or even the existence of a comment like this is more or less absurd. It has already been established long ago that neanderthals utilize intelligence. A “cost-benefit analysis” is a strange interpretation of wanting large prey. If the only evidence shown is the hunting of large prey, this does not equate to “cost-benefit analysis” only does it equate to a desire for enough or more than enough resources hunted and acquired, which is an assumed motivation anyway.
carlos lascoutx Says:
June 8th, 2009 at 7:20 pm
…well, roderigo, that’s just a bean-counter talking, the kind
that skulk around the campfire at enron and make off with bits of
meat like the dogs, i think we know that danger has an exhilerating effect on blicked sinuses, clears them up right away, as a sioux
chief said before battle, today is a good day to die, now there
was a man who dared to live, and neander for all his short life
felt intensely alive, connected, his torch was lit and burned brightly, so brightly that he had enough left over for the first
scrabbly folk out of afrika with no direction home, took on the
cold face of the stars and mapped it, cautious, able, warm-hearted,
respectful of his fellow animals and envrionment, not like the
throw-away garbage society of today, high tech low lifes, huddling
together against their own species even, not wanting to include
them in their masquerades and banquets. neander/neandra understood
the raw universe to the flesh and the sprits trapped inside this
blue envelope entirely, from this fallen angel came the gods,
our carefully crafted language so fine even its letters tell a
story, played the first notes of music on his pan flute and even
before that through throat singing, began weaving as the star chart,
wrestled to begin games, because they weren’t a large society/
tzotzoyotia(N)=popcorn on a string means they didn’t have the
humdrum wisdom of consensus that is so destructive to education
and scholarship today and produces generation after generation
of tired systemic flasks that deliver civ. back to the past.
no, today we run in packs, yet are not the equals of the dogs
we imitate. i’m not arguing for superman, i’m arguing for thought,
conscience, the balls to say no to your own government when
it bypasses the do unto others laws, and the courage to see elites
for what they are: catastrophic cassandras of the common good.
carlos lascoutx Says:
June 8th, 2009 at 9:45 pm
…in the chatelperronian, 35-29k bc, neander/neandra hunted
all the time, wet and dry, from fixed camps, because they were
tied to locus/tloc(N)/location for their medicine, their
pharmacy/pamaca(N), they had periods of convalescence, were
not always in the best of health, they may not have been resistant
to the strains of flu coming up from afrika, or their own
hard scrabble past from nothing caught up with them, maybe
crossing the species barrier, not having iodine/yodo(sp)/yotl(N)/
yo(sp)=iota(gk)=i(E) to develop brain and nervous system,
get your iodized salt today child-bearing mothers,
so many things with no god to guide them, but they climbed out
of the whirlpool of evolution, and in some cases produced walking,
running, riding, singing gods, for there is every evidence in
the myth we have that gods were real people, lady birdsnake
at belgrade, tlatla tzol teotl at zatal huyuk hunting
aurox with her cats, zeus driving his father chronus to the
emerald isle, his dad was the youngest neander titan=titlani(N)=messenger, his name goes into theatre as comedy, commotion,
the daily drill of the breakfast fire=comoni(N),
a cosmic dance repeated every day,
the co(s)mos starts with a spark, a chitoni(N)/chthonic
tune as first light from the torch of creation streaks across the
universe to land in a mudhole that becomes an eye, gleams back,
and then chants the music of the universe that gave birth
to time, ritually intoning that first particle rubbed against
theother/teotl(N)/teo theo deo, tetl tletl teotl theology.
carlos lascoutx Says:
June 12th, 2009 at 8:25 pm
…of the traits in neander/neandra to underline, that are
mentioned in the mati/immati(N) wordstring filed in remí
simeon’s nauatl diccionario, isbn 968-23-0573, is circumspection,
judicious, cautious, respectful, warm-hearted. he/she didn’t kill
for body count, they killed for survival, and gave back offering/
uentli(N) for what they took to live. the number for that action
is reverse/chico ome/2=7, which survives today in the hebrew word,
menorah, the 7 wraps. the number 7 goes on to become the days in
the week in the incredibly botched calendrics of today that has
us at least sixty days out of phase for our planetary round,
i suppose you could say time/temi/ t/th/he(r)mi(letra)=hermes
is only messenger service, but the original word for time was,
cahuitl(N)=the flowing of ca/being, which, through letra=
c/g(r)avi tl/ty=gravity, and knowing that makes us further
out of balance. as i have said elsewhere, time is now on
the atomic standard, accurate as it might be, still a chilling
affront to the spirit of man, the stagehand to the music of this
sphere, why, it’s like the metro(g)nome of science taking over beethoven’s ode to joy/yoli/yollotli(N)=heart.
seven(7)= se-ven=ce uentli(N)=one offering/cerf/se(r)ve/
ciervo(sp)/hirvi(Finn)/se(r)vice/reverend/wind/went/wend(gens)/
even/when/evenki(deertribe)/gwen(the word, queen)/gwent(wales),
and comes from the deer cult of 42k bc, a cromag venture that
springs up along with the earlier iueli solstice bear christ
worship begun by neander and carried on by the Finns, whereby
the pine tree/pinaua(N)=to be ashamed, redden/opinau(N)=opinion,
later, pennon/ p/b(r)ennon(OTeut)=burn(E), becomes the first
cross, of the coming of the bear from heaven, for a body=tlaca(N)/
raka(Finn)=sin, and his ascension after sacrifice to his original
place in the bear constellation. i don’t thiink you can have a bear cult unless you know the heavens. neander/neandra starts it and
the ritual fact is that those millenia that precede the exodus
from afrika were spent in large part on astronomy, with the naming
and language symbolism that it implies, and the drawing down of
the observable gods and myths that neander/neandra, the fallen
band of angels passed on to the migrations out of afrika, or,
even while they were in afrika, as time is the determinant, not
locus, in this transfer of knowledge, so, we may sidestep the
boondoggle scholars are so fond of.
it is hard for us to understand neander with our spiritually
arrogant, yet overly precise brain, but he/she seems to have had
a encyclopedic facility for connecting things which was like a
chain reaction that encompassed the universe on the first day,
a creative mind, not a scheming one full of treachery. as we
see religion develop from neandra to us, our belief system
changes from that of wonder, and distinct division of the divine
from human affairs, to that of scapegoat and betrayal.
is that the type of loom we want
for the weaving of our affairs on the blue planet?
if so, we are sadly out of tune with the central impulse of
our universe, tonatiuh/anthony/tonalli(N)=, the soul we have
now comes down to us from the old word for sewing/sawing=tzaua,
and is joined by, ollin/holy= t/z/saol/lin=saol(OE)=soul(E),
and as society=tzotzoyotia(N)=iotas on a string, that too a
weaving word, yet we seem to be running out of string.
language is weaving, i believe we are not spinning enough
of it to meet our needs for string, ah, spin/(s)piel/piloa/
spill/spil/rit=spirit, aha, we need more spirit of spinning
words, more talkers to get us off the pages of bad news,
badly written and talked by vulgarians and stumpheads, yes,
that may be it. letra can help.tks
lolwut? Says:
July 9th, 2009 at 6:28 pm
well carlos. you’re really good at bullshitting, but you haven’t said a damn thing.

you’re not supposed to drink the bong water.
carlos lascoutx Says:
July 9th, 2009 at 7:59 pm
…who dares awake neander napping on his pile of bearshit, or
cyclops counting sheep, it must be stinky man, the odiferous,
related back in chronus to the rodent, always chewing about the
pantry of his betters, looking for a free meal, then crapping
in what he can’t eat such is his social consciousness, why did
i have to help him when he was down and out during the glaciation,
shivering there with a broken spear and his wife ready to whelp
god knows what new catastrophy on the earth he would later scratch
and torment, reeking there in the air he would fill with neutrons
and protons by dawn’s early light, the nuclear knucklehead who
thought he was so smart then had to go running around trying to
recover what he had spilled from the basket, he and his pal ivan,
the proto-bear. what can one do for a species that betrays its
mother, its friends, and now its reaching into space to spread
the dread there and find a new garbage dump as they’re all full
below, and he keeps squeaking, god, god, god, listen to me, i am
cousin of the rat, we’re sorry we chewed your slippers and have
soiled creation with our kind, can you forgive us, and perhaps
lend us our allowance 2 weeks in advance, we want to go to mars
and check out if it’s really made of roquefort. tks. we still
believe in you but will so even more if you can also slip us
a few lottery numbers under the table. tks, man.
now where is my f…ing bong, oh, no, ocelotl ate it, and the water
too. oh well, have to talk to tzol about the beast again.
let me bend my mind to toady man again, he never listens,
the ears are rudders so he doesn’t fall over, and his nose
isn’t for smelling, if it was he would have passed out long ago
from his own fug, what a creature, and if you’re ever so unlucky
as to see him trying to make a baby in an unguarded moment, you’ll
appreciate cosmo’s sense of humor, intelligent design?, couldn’t
stop laughing the first time saw rubik’s cube for sex, and
apparently he can’t tell his genders apart and does it with
whoever he comes upon. oh well, let me spend some quality time
with the noble animals, ride the rhino, chat with the aurox,
tango with the bear, trade shadows with the eagle, goof off
with the otter, and stagger with the elk, but droid mankeyys,
blue-bottomed babboons, capuchins, the occasional orangbhutan,
their idiotic chatter in language they don’t know because it
was another unwrapped gift they carry around from moi, neander,
i believe when god had finished making their species, he said,
let them go forth and fuck themselves, and they did, are, and will.
okay Says:
July 9th, 2009 at 10:31 pm
seriously, shut up.

you’re an idiot.
carlos lascoutx Says:
July 10th, 2009 at 8:16 am
…got it. good luck, and if you come upon a new discovery, kill it.
carlos lascoutx Says:
July 26th, 2009 at 9:03 am
…by the way, check out, 10 useful inventions that went bad.
oh, and lolwut, an incurious brain like yours doesn’t capture
anything because it’s just an ornament, you know, for decoration,
it’s not meant to be used, your ears are not for listening,
they’re for ventilation, if you ever do pick up a book you’ll
find your nose useful for turning the pages, don’t try to smell
with it or you may not like yourself afterwards, and your eyes
are for playing marbles during recess, which for you is all the
time. ok, schools out.
lolwut Says:
July 30th, 2009 at 12:54 am
ah, well. i heard a saying once, “arguing on the internet is like competing in the special olympics. even if you win, you’re still retarded.” reminds me of you, carlos crazy man. enjoy your tinfoil hats and conspiracy theories about neanderthals.
carlos lascoutx Says:
August 13th, 2009 at 8:21 pm
…the retarded is you lolwut, i am bringing something to the debate
about neander, you are just carrying your opinion, not engaging,
making a judgement that you cannot back up, you have nothing to offer, neither does okay, and it’s really not ok, if you are running a business just say so and accept the consequences of being sob’s,
sons of beesknees, and huddle together with the other dime a dozens
nameless assholes of cyberspace, cramped minds of rote, and midget
widgets of the slag heap on eternal recycle. what’s new?
PW Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 9:08 am
Thanks Carlos for pointing this page out. Neander made flutes, performed ornate burials, created art, etc. Some French scientists went to the trouble of “disproving” their ability to interbreed with crow-magnum(sp). As a friend said, if he were shaved and dressed, and riding on the subway car with you, you would not bat an eye looking at him, although he might appear a little strange looking, and perhaps you would sense that he were indeed several times stronger than yourself. Did he speak? His vocal chords may have allowed only singing, which some would say would be a limitation we all should have been blessed with.
carlos lascoutx Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 9:10 am
…what’s new is that in chasing down the mastiff origins, that’s
origo(Lat)=to rise= or/l/tleco(N)=to rise(a prayer for ok and
lolwits)source of origin, isn’t it amazing that r/l/tl?, but i
digress, i stumbled upon the most successful deer tribe, the
massagetae=mazatl cettilia(N)=the settled deer tribe of the alaunt
alaua(N)=praise/annoint alani alans, who are the successful
healthy neader crosses of the russian riverine, being blond, blue/green eyed, who lived over
by the sea of azov/lake meotis=meyaua otli(N)=the flowing road,
where they fished, hunted fresh water seal for garment, went directly from deer to horse to cattle, some sheep perhaps but
knowing the sheep wars of 50’s oaters they had to settle for
one or the other, and to guard the herds and to pull the smaller
carts, they developed and bred the mastiff as cattle guard,
settlement defender, then wardog. they gave the persians the
chariot and wardog, in fact, the game of chess they may have come
from mongolia, cf., post tzopilotl wordpress, chessgoddess, or
matilda’s gobekli blog, as the mongilian words for king queen
come from their word for guard dog, nohoi(M), also, the tonalamatl
may originate with them as dog is the center of the basic calendar
sample/cempoalli(N)/20 at number 10, with deer being number/day 7.
needless to say they were the most fearsome warriors of their time,
a tribe hitler was trying to connect with for his aryan theorys,
which remained just that. they were tricked by the the persians
who laid a banquet for them with plenty of wine, the alani were
not used to wine, having a miraculous plant they used to get high
instead, it turns out to be hashish, so they fell upon the banquet
and got so befuddled they were set upon by the persians,
who easily defeated them and captured their prince,
spargapises, who contrived to commit suicide when released of his bonds. his mother, queen tomyris, vowed to dunk king cyrus’s severed head in blood for that treachery and so it turned out after one of the cruelist battles ever seen in those parts. tomyris found
his body under a pile of men and gave his head the plunge(pun).
in the 9-12th centurys the alani were pushed to the caucassus
by the swelling mongols behind them and formed the christian
kingdom of alania, at the same time the alani tribes were renting
themselves out as mercenarys, going into france, iberia with the vandals, before the 7th c., taking their war dog with them.
their progress in europe can be traced by following the breed,
the molosser in greece, the monchina in cantabria which guards
the half-wild red cattle they have there, the doggo in venice,
the alano in spain, the kangal in the caucassus, the mastiff
in england. these were people who bred cattle, horses, dogs,
themselves. they were monogamous but held their women in common,
a delightful idea for modern times if one does not wish to be
bothered with divorce and the scuzzy lawyers who settle like
flies over those cases. so wherever you find blond redhead blue/
green eyes, horse, dog, cattle beefeaters, with the elite hierarchy
of kings and queens at the top of the breeding ladder for humans
you will have this race, the race who come alive in wars and who
invent the most diabolic means to pursue it. hitler’s great mistake
was to attack england for the descedents of the alani were there
waiting for him, with their dogs, chariots(of air), their horse,
beef sandwiches, hash, and a spot of tea.
carlos lascoutx Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
…why would the french bother to disprove interbreeding when they
breed with everything, they were the amazement of the amerindians,
spending so much time with their squaws they lost the entire
continent to the less enthusiastic british, even the racoons=
rl/tlacoon(N)=body were not safe, altho they might have drawn
the line at moose until they imported swings. desoto brought
over 600 pigs that promptly infected wildlife here, but when
asked about the french, he bacame quite modest about his swineherd,
crossed himself, and mentioned taking vows of chastity.
neander did speak, and if he did not he mimed=mimati(N)=mati(N)=
to know=mater(Lat). this is the mother race of our knowledge,
even though it’s the race preceding ours. if one wants a portrait
of neander, one follows the mati/mimati/imati/imatini/imattica
word string, meaning, prudent, cautious, circumspect, grateful,
periods of convalescence(many neanders were sickly from crossing
the species barrier, their mothers no having iodine when pregnant,
and other minerals in their diet, nonetheless, the russian riverine
neanders that culminated in the alani/massagetae=mazatl ceti
were the godlike/zeus neander who gave us the annointed/alaua/
hallow/allowed alans, the top deer culture tribe who were as close to gods as cross-breeding would allow, and reflected their origins
in breeding horse, alabai/alano/alaunt mastiffs and sprinkling
then all over europe and england and eurasia wherever their victorious hosts went), like all good things of blond and blue/
green eye, redhair also, they were in demand and bred their own
tribe out of existance after founding the kingdom of alania in the caucassus, which is why there is so little of neander in dna,
but enough to know we are promethean, too, and our favorite sport
is war, whose time is coming to a close, for a new world age to
begin. all things pass away, often the best first, which is a
sadness we remember in myth and the scrambled eggs of history,
but it’s all there in the language neander gave us and the book
of souls with dog at the center and deer at seven, that his mixed
descendents gave us, the age of heroes, now we are in the age of
beans, the counting of.
as an aside, the japanese can be profiled in the same wordstring
manner i just did neander, by using the wordstring, tlapa, which
includes all the noble characteristics the japanese/hapa/tlapa
possess and others they like to hide. it’s all there in rémi
simeon, nauatl dictionary, isbn 968-23-0573-x.
PW Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
The first signers, perhaps? Signing would of course have been one of the first means to communicate. Being voiceless or speechless does not inhibit communication. NSL was not hands free however, so they could not text while signing, nor post a Facebook message about the deer they caught that day or the bead necklace they made. It was illegal back then to text while chariot riding anyway so no loss was felt.
carlos lascoutx Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 7:37 pm
…signing in nauatl would be a snap, the tonalamatl is based on
our 20 digits, designed for memory like it’s companion, nauatl,
you count the days on your hands, have done it many times using
mine,no paper needed. for language, holding up 4 fingers=na, holding
up 5=ma, two=ome, one=ce, three could be, yei, or ca/calli. many
different ways to go. with the calender, 6=miquiztli/skull(today
is a skull day in the northern death/mictlampa quadrant. seven is
deer, harvest, often 7snake, goddess of plenty and none(the empress
and the star in tarot), also in tarot, you see the fool with a
dog between his legs because he originally was xolotl, eveningstar,
clown, and quetzalcoatl’s brother, morningstar is the proto-christ,
he is paired with st. michael in the tarot, st. michael being,
mickey miquiztli, the old death lord, whose realm xolotl traverses
everyday as dog escorts sun through middle earth to pop up east,
supressed by the catholic church in their warped wisdom based on
it is better for inferior minds not to know truth and origin(the
mural at san applonari, ravenna was covered over by a previous pope,
now it isn’t, so enjoy(google), it’s quetzalcoatl/hecate handing over their rule of the aryan tribes of king theodrik of gotha to
mary with jaysu on her lap, etc.). number is language, in at the
beginning, before music the first words were silent, but it is
not for nothing that mime/mimati(N)=subtle thing, comes from
mati(N)=to know mater(Lat)knowledge, know itself=nauh/no atl=
my water, my at(preposition/english)=4=naui. alaua(N)/hallow.
it’s all there in the leaves of words, the quills of language,
far more complex than a devious self-centered and arrogant mind
can comprehend with devil’s full help, but so elegantly simple
to a mind accustomed to humility and satisfied with what creation
has given, a mind that praises what it has, and is grateful.
that’s the mindset that gave us language, the divine promethean
gift that makes us heirs to eternity if we would only use its
full power instead of the toys that come to hand in the dreadful
silence called war, well, almost silent, it’s the hush where
the devil whispers, go ahead.
PW Says:
August 15th, 2009 at 12:41 am
Neander’s voice called from the “modern” man’s right hemisphere, giving god-like commands to the left, which were obeyed slavishly by man. Then the Jaynesian breakdown occurred, and we lost something, and gained as well. Then, after slipping through the nooks and folds of the brain, Neander became a sad willing drop-out and ceased to be even a voice, or at least one that most of us could hear except for the freaks who refused to take their Thorazine. The moon and the sun stood still together once, then the sun moved, then the moon.
carlos lascoutx Says:
August 15th, 2009 at 8:19 am
…from the fallen angel words we still use today in every language
whose headwater is nauatl, and, although shehe is gone the voice
lives on every lip. that’s eternity, leave your body at its door.
carlos lascoutx Says:
August 15th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
…i thought the moon was a galactic billiard carom that bounced
off blue planet(the 2 ball) and then tried to hang on with its
arms and legs, saying shine a little light on me, which the sun
heard her say and shone light on both of us with his flashlight, and since she’s a lady doesn’t show her backside. the nauatl word
for her, that goes into basque and japanese simultaneously,
=ilacatzqui(N)=to twist(one’s legs)around something=ilaca(letra)=
ila(r)ga(basque)= -c/gatz/ts(q)u(i)(letra)= -gatsu(jap)=month suffix)
PW Says:
August 15th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
As Jaynes and someone else before him said, in order to explain what consciousness was NOT, ask a flashlight the following question when you are in a dark room: “How well lit is this room?”. The answer will be “This room is extremely well lit”. Not a very enlightened flashlight but what can you expect? None are.
carlos lascoutx Says:
August 15th, 2009 at 5:00 pm
…that’s because the flashlight is an american politician
on capitol hill pretending he’s the sun, and the electorate
still hasn’t figured out they’re in the dark altho some
suspect they haven’t seen dawn’s early light in all the proud
waving.
carlos lascoutx Says:
September 2nd, 2009 at 8:36 am
…neander/neandra are looked down upon because they didn’t develop
a political structure. don’t you think we should look up to them for that? i do. beyond family and hunting grouping, they minded their own business, had time to develop language, enjoy life.
who can do that now, not with poli-ticks, oops, there’s one now,
slap it, their wars, their invasions, and now they are set to deny
the long-suffering american public a dignified health plan because
they want their pounds and don’t care for the flesh.
obama’s not doing well? oh, really? wonder why? is it because he
inherited a criminal enterprise called government whose greatest
exponenets are irresponsible torturers being defended by a blathering ex-viper, no me defiendes compadre, is what they
should say to him. the last chinny i knew who went to war was
in WW1, he saw action alright, flew into a cloud over his own
aerodrome and took out a friendly, nice going, we got an excellent
boys camp out of it in new hampshire, on the evidence of possible
kinship for the next generations of family i’d say it was a good
thing he did dodge the draft as many times as indecently possible
if only for the safety of our troops which would have been, and
are at risk from his misguided manipulation of the craft of war,
that only leaves his hunting partners but i think they’ve already
figured out he’s a loose gun.
carlos lascoutx Says:
September 12th, 2009 at 6:52 pm
…neander and modern human had the same hunting techniques.
kostenkij, russia appears to be the oldest modern human redoubt
outside of afrika, cf., my remarks on afrikan eve’s migration
to kostenkij and the triangulation of pierced shells simultaneously
at dordogne, south and east afrika, and kostenkij, 50k bc.
evidence in georgian(russia) caves, ortval klde and dzudzuana,
show neander and modern human strata, a .4 frequency of obsidian
for neander levels, from a source 100kilometers distant, and,
a 5%-7% freq. of obsidian from same source for modern human,
meaning they traded around neander, their success based on not
who they were(a neander trait), but on who they knew(modern human
societal trait). so neander was outflanked by modern human, who
multiplied more rapidly also. whether absorbtion took place or
outright extinction is hard to say. the mythological record left
us does not agree with the shovel findings, the promethean label
for neander is hard to shrug off, as is titan(gk)=titlani(N)=
messenger, fallen angel, and the zeus/cronus wars.
if shovels are to be trusted, deer antler is found only in
the modern human levels, the beginning of new flake tech and
the climb to deer culture and the blood religions we know today.
carlos lascoutx Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 8:48 pm
…now, an update, time moves quickly in the millenia layer,
the zhuang on the chinese border with vietnam, their name meaning
cave living have to be considered also, they have the oldest
tool and bone horizon outside of afrika, 800k bc, for all you
afrike freaks it probably just means an early exit from olduvai,
altho life is duality and there’s no reason why, given physical
appearance, that modern human began in duality, i.e., two places.
perhaps the difference in pysiognomy was neander himself, as it doesn’t seem he was far east, or even the altai mts, which is
an argument for interbreeding between mods and healthy neander,
altho from cave venus tlatla tzol teteo figurines neither mod or
neander breeding stock looked healthy during cave time, which
in some areas where caves were plentiful went on past gobekli
until çatal huyuk, the healthy portion of the race and religion
being promoted by the early nomads pushed out of europe by glaciation to follow tlaloc, the rain god, and his totem deer.
nomadism was of two types, one leading to the aryans, norse, swede rus, finn, goth, teuton, and the other the
asian arctic crescent, mongol altai, coming out of the zhuang
homeland, while the teuton, viking crowd, spring from eurocaves,
altho one can say the basques have an oriental, or at least
turkish aspect as they appear to have been evangelisized by
the porto-christ, quetzalcoatl, and crossed their ch(i)thonic=
chitoni(N)=sparky firedrill cave population with the turkish
tribe in bithynis, all of whom say they began in the altai mts.
at the moment, the altai, appears to have begun the intelligent
and cultured planet we now enjoy, give or take an orc or two
threatening the peaceful hobbit.

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